Sam's story about living in
The Five Points Senior Apartments
in Huntington Beach
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If you are thinking of moving there, read this first.
A warning of what to expect and how to protect yourself.
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I've moved to a nice place in Costa Mesa where the people are warm and the shower is hot (there is also a tub for a nice warm soak.) But now on with my story.

After living there for six years, I realized I had to escape. I cleaned the apartment with the help of my Daughter and her husband and moved on the weekend.

My big mistake was in not getting a walk through. They held back over half of my deposit for carpet cleaning and cleaning. (I had throw rugs on most of the carpet so it was clean and they didn't have to replace it.) So be careful, they don't see you as a human, only as a money source.

They are making bad causes for themselves. I forgive them and pray for them. They need a lot of help.

One issue to be aware of is the "Times Warner Cable and the Utilities" ploy. Times Warner made a deal for a flat rate so that the management could make some extra revenue. The management added $45.00 on to the monthly rent as an extra. Then after a few months, in order to make it look legal, they added the term "and Utilities."

I didn't want cable, but i had no choice, they charged me anyway.

Free bread is delivered once a week and people line up to receive it. I have seen the manager manhandle tenants when they didn't respond to an order to wait in line.

I once again live among people who are warm and friendly. There are children and dogs. I am young again.

There is great danger in living in a Senior Apartment such as the one in HB. They make you grow old and die. Then they can keep most of the deposit and raise the rent.

What wonderful people we have in this world.

From the Daughter of a former Tenant:

Shari, Huntington Beach, CA,
          Hi, my Mom lived in 5 points senior apartments for 9 years. When I had to move her to a nursing home last October, I was not allowed to use the dumpsters for trash. I could not have a truck in the driveway to load stuff for goodwill. I could not park in the garage when I spent the nite - which was often. After I had made arrangements to have the apartment cleaned by a professional house cleaner for $50 which included cleaning the totally worn out carpet, bathroom scoured, oven cleaned and floors thoroughly cleaned and waxed I was told that cleaning fees and carpet fees would be taken out and not to have someone else do it. I ended up with under $300 of the $700 deposit. The management was very unpleasant during the month it took me to clear out the apartment. Then they billed me for taking stuff to salvation army that I could not manage myself and I even paid one of their maintenance guys to haul the stuff out. I was very frustrated. Too many negative things happened to other tenants that were Mom's friends. Anyway, glad to hear it was not just us. Mom passed away a few weeks after she went to the nursing home. She really did like her apartment but they never fixed anything when she asked. Thanks for your letter and I think you should still mail the letter to the management. Funny, I just saw him at the store yesterday. I guess that is what prompted my search. Have a good day. And your website is very interesting. Thank you, Shari

A letter to the owners that was never sent.

Five Points Senior Apartments
18561 Florida Street #4013
Huntington Beach, CA 92648

To the Owners:

There comes a time when a person has to speak out. When it wrong to stand by and watch wrongs being committed that cause a person to have negative thoughts. Negative thoughts are not healthy. That time has come for me.

The issue with Times Warner Cable and the Utilities ploy is one issue. The lack of water pressure is another issue which overlaps the first issue. Since, semantically, you have added the utilities to the Times Warner contract, that means we are paying for the water and should have full pressure, not in spurts, and it should stay hot. All of us in this building are not old and stupid. There are a lot of aware people who feel as I do.

Your reasoning, that prices have gone up and you have to charge more is understandable, but you have been steadily raising the rents, so the rent raises should compensate for the other price raises. To add on to what you are already getting is not morally right, no matter how you justify it

We know that all of the improvements you had done here, were not done for the existing tenants, They were implemented so you could get more rent from new tenants. Some of us knew that from the beginning, when you first took over the management of the building. We knew the rents were going up and they did. A lot of tenants left and you were glad to see them go.

I believe that a morally wrong act is not justified by saying, "That’s business." No matter what, it is still morally wrong.  Of course people don’t want to acknowledge that, but deep down the subconscious knows and it always come back: Cause and effect. You can't fool God.

Lots of love,
Sambo