I met Shelly Winters at Bob and Jackie Hilliard's home in Hollywood in the seventies. That is also where I met Maria d'Aragon who played Greedo in Star Wars. Maria met shell there and became good friends with her. We used to meet at Schwab's Drugstore on Sunset Blvd. in the morning for coffee. Richard Tate was good friends with Shelly and we had many good tomes together.

Once Shelly called Maria and I to accompany her to the Johnny Carson Show. She asked Maria to bring her cat along. When Shelly appeared on the show she was holding the cat and the topic of the conversation became about dressing animals.

At one point in the show, the cat crawled out of her arms and over ed Mcmann and down onto the floor under Ed's feet.